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PostSubject: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptyFri Oct 15, 2010 7:24 am

i can't view the reply and none even could view the reply .
but what am 100%sure about that i never joined this jordanian kids games and any jordanian hosts i even can't play in jordanan hosts ..am in dubai and it shows 350-400 ping for any jordanian server.

i dunno what i've to post but what am sure about that i didn't get any ban request or mh request since more than 2 years.

what i've to post or upload? cos i can't see the reply but i looked at the conversation loggs..there is smth wrong hope some admin can view the reply cos am 100000% that I DIDNT JOIN THIS kids and i never used any mh..am even paying for gold from my own credite card and am too old for this childish stuf..
am willing to post or upload anything to make u sure for that..
hope i get some relpy asap
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptyFri Oct 15, 2010 7:34 am

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this guy is an arabs abuser and insulting all of the time in main..and i've checked his jpg..looks so funny for me..am jordanian and am living in dubai..and i am not using any MH..8-9months ago my little bro used my acount once and he used MH ( he lives in jordan ) and he got ban and i unbaned it by using my credite card to buy shells...thats the only time on my username...

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i dunno what i've to post but what am sure about that i didn't get any ban request or mh request since more than 2 years.

2 years right?
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptyFri Oct 15, 2010 7:39 am

learn to lie my friend hf with 365 days
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptyFri Oct 15, 2010 7:50 am

dude..read what i've said
and how u ban without viewing the reply? i asked some ppl to view the relpy and none could view it.
anyway am done with this kids behavior to post or reply..too old to use this shits or even to think of using MapHacking..i report ppl for that and u think am too supid to use MH with some jordanian kids host? i even can't join any jordanian host here in dubai..it laggs for me.

anyway am done here .
ban or whatever i'm done with this childish topics..someone post me for using mh whcih i never used lol thats so funny.
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptyFri Oct 15, 2010 7:54 am

we all can download the replay and we saw ur mh

go here and download >> http://replay.garena.com/view.php?id=4cb7c54b5ec13

but u allready know the replay coz u was in the game

dont be silly

GOD BURN MHERS
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptyFri Oct 15, 2010 7:56 am

i just wana say that i download the replay .

and i saw your idiot unban request on Abuser Requests xD .


take a look what Youssef900 replayed :

https://edhlr.canadaboard.net/hlr-abuser-requests-f5/unban-godmaker-maphack-2747922-t8894.htm


hmmm i think he download the replay and like Imba4All said

Imba4All wrote:
learn to lie my friend hf with 365 days
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptyFri Oct 15, 2010 8:06 am

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and how u ban without viewing the reply? i asked some ppl to view the relpy and none could view it.

When you can't view the replay, it means the map's folder is different than yours. Here, the guy who posted the replay, has chosen this path : warcraftIII/maps
Put your dota map in maps folder.
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptyFri Oct 15, 2010 8:19 am

cous44 thx i just could see the reply.
no comment..anyone who played before with me specialy when i pick pudge he will know that wasn't me..they way he dies and goes for towers and almost killing him self in purpose as CLEARLY u can see like he is showing ppl that he is using a mh !!!!
all of the players were jordanian and here in dubai i can't play with any jordanian or lebanese hosts cos simply i'll lagg .

i dunno what was that as u see cous i always report ppl for maphacking or stealing items or ruined the game..and now i watch the reply which is Clear that there was mh.

noone have my garena pssword which am sure about it but 2 days ago i got some problem in loginning i thought its garena's error.

anyway cous44 u've been fair..go ahead for the ban am simply deleting this game .
too many kids with their ways to try banning someone or whatever..too old for that
btw thx at least u listend to me..and for that kids who is posting replys they just haters cos i was posting on their ban requests to let them know the HLR1 RUles so basicly i don't pay attention.
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptyFri Oct 15, 2010 9:16 am

The same happened to me, a few months ago, but I could prove by a+b that it wasn't me. But in your case, odo/168 won't be able to do so. And I'm pretty sure the one who did it to me, probably the same who did it to you. And as a matter of fact, he was jordanian.
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptyFri Oct 15, 2010 10:23 am

Using hacks is strictly prohibited

Usage of maphack or gold hack or any other hacks that affect the gameplay will result in a one-year ban from all Europe DotA High Level Rooms

its the rules ... remember ??

enough lies and bullshits like that request about your brother
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptyFri Oct 15, 2010 10:39 am

cous well i dunno how to prove..i know about this jordanian kids but as i told u i've enough to think about more than dota or this kids like hesoka and so on.
but what am 10000% sure about that i never go for this things to hack or whatever.
i'd not spend my money and pay with my own credite card to get gold while i'm using mh stuff or gold hack as this kid hesoka who is leaving games and now start talkin about rules.
but anyway its all ur decision cous i've nth else to say if u know a way how to prove so i'll appricate it to tell me..besides look at the time man..i'll stay awake till 5 am to play with jordanian kids? while i've work here in dubai ?
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptyFri Oct 15, 2010 11:13 am

GGRocks wrote:
i can't view the reply and none even could view the reply .
but what am 100%sure about that i never joined this jordanian kids games and any jordanian hosts i even can't play in jordanan hosts ..am in dubai and it shows 350-400 ping for any jordanian server.

i dunno what i've to post but what am sure about that i didn't get any ban request or mh request since more than 2 years.

what i've to post or upload? cos i can't see the reply but i looked at the conversation loggs..there is smth wrong hope some admin can view the reply cos am 100000% that I DIDNT JOIN THIS kids and i never used any mh..am even paying for gold from my own credite card and am too old for this childish stuf..
am willing to post or upload anything to make u sure for that..
hope i get some relpy asap
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u have mh but u never use it?
hahha
funny stupid kid
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptyFri Oct 15, 2010 11:32 am

Actually, it's not my decision, I just wanted to comment a bit of all this, since, I'm the one who handled the request. 168/odo will now decide.
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptyFri Oct 15, 2010 11:51 am

cous44 its ok but hope u'll support me..as u know am honest and i've no reason to lie . and as u see this jordanian kids start jumping arround who were playing in that game..its so obvious wish i can prove it..
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptyFri Oct 15, 2010 12:16 pm

Maker doesn't hack, Support Unban !!!!
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptyFri Oct 15, 2010 3:13 pm

so... denied,closed ?????
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptyFri Oct 15, 2010 3:35 pm

well i wish they ban every single ip address whose from Jordan..this jordanian kids ruine this business.
someone like me works in dubai , paying shitty money to play in peace , reporting leavers always following all rules ..and suddenly the 1st time i get Reported..by jordanian kid who suddenly post Reply at 5 am morning while am fucking sleeping to go my work..and everyone who watched the relpy got it SO CLEAR and OBVIOUS that who was playing there IS NOT someone playing dota for years...he is clearly showing to everyone that he has MH !!!!!

anyway i hope admins will really take an action on this..and i wish i'd knew how to prove this ppl who is using MH or hacking accounts or using username or whatever..
even they tryed this with cous44..he is an admin and this jordanian kid didn't leave him alone..so sad
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptySat Oct 16, 2010 5:21 am

stop acting please

LOCATION : JO = FUCK U HACKERS
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptySat Oct 16, 2010 8:22 am

u dumb kid am in dubai not in jordan..bravo3leik tell ur dumb kid friend
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptySat Oct 16, 2010 11:49 am

GGRocks, check your "messages"
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptySat Oct 16, 2010 1:19 pm

0doaker nvm dude i just login in garena. ban been started.
its ok dude forget about it am gonna delete my account .
kindly close this topic its an headache raeding this kids comments.

cous44 thanks for undertsanding.

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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptySun Oct 31, 2010 6:18 am

Too much time has passed for this injustice. I'm sorry for it.

After analyzing all Godmaker’s replay I’ve come to the conclusion that he got his nickname spoofed.

Im not going to argument that it couldn’t be him because he is in Dubai and the host is from Jordan and the result will be a so laggy game that he couldn’t even move properly as to hook with the accuracy we can observe in the replay in question ( http://replay.garena.com/view.php?id=4cb7c54b5ec13 ).

Although we cant known were actually the host was from I have no reason to doubt that is from no other place than JO and It’s known to me that Godmaker is in Dubai so this frail evidence but interesting detail is to be considered because it’s very important to determine whether it’s really him or not.

Let’s go to the core of my argumentation:

After analyzing all Godmaker’s replay at my disposition (http://replay.garena.com/userlist.php?p=GodMaker) I’ve come to the conclusion that he got his nickname spoofed.

I ground my reasoning on some simple but really clear and logic facts which are:

1) Only in one replay we can observe “he” had maphack.

This fact speaks by its own and it tells a lot of to me, because it’s the common way when incriminating innocent people, only one and so clear replay to prove someone to be a maphacker. It’s all about patterns because the person who played that pudge couldn’t make more obvious that he was using maphack in order to make himself certain that everyone will notice it.
As a result we have : only one replay with maphack + too obvious = really really really dubious.

2) English output

This is another aspect that led me to question the possibility of namespoof, let’s compare those games which were saved froma player in the opposite team of Godmaker ( for sentinel-scourge chat reasons ) to grasp it clearly :

First chat – Namespoofer ; Second chat - Godmaker

10:30 [All] GodMaker: ?
10:40 [All] GodMaker: play
10:40 [All] GodMaker: me no mh
20:12 [All] GodMaker: JAJAJAJA
20:13 [All] GodMaker: HAAHHAAH
27:11 [All] GodMaker: thx
34:16 [All] GodMaker: lol
34:17 [All] GodMaker: Ezalor
34:50 [All] GodMaker: COMING FOR HELP
36:07 [All] GodMaker: HAHAHAH
36:29 [All] GodMaker: GG nabs
_________________________________

04:15 [All] GodMaker: well i stoped attacking..
04:19 [All] GodMaker: but my lvl 1 killed him
05:07 [All] GodMaker: who is afk
10:36 [All] GodMaker: i think yeah
10:41 [All] GodMaker: we are owning so easy
10:56 [All] GodMaker: go to them
11:09 [All] GodMaker: pugna not u
11:11 [All] GodMaker: let sweet slut go
11:25 [All] GodMaker: sweet slut will go to them
11:41 [All] GodMaker: destroyer refused
14:32 [All] GodMaker: u'll be reported
14:44 [All] GodMaker: same baby
15:04 [All] GodMaker: lol same also if afk there is relpy can be posted
15:16 [All] GodMaker: play dude its just a game
57:39 [All] GodMaker: gg
57:41 [All] GodMaker: noobs


Ignore the number of lines or words that in each case are typed because that’s basically determined by the nature of each game but pay a close attention to the structure of them , in the first chatlog we practically don’t see any structure, it’s just some messages formed by a word or two put them together whereas in the second one you can percieve a syntax, clauses with a normal and coherent structure. This is one of the clearest pieces of evidence.

3) Broken recurrent patterns.

I had the immense luck to be able to compare the pudge played in the replay with maphack with another two pudges played by the real Godmaker or at least by a different player.

Pudge0 (with mh) : http://replay.garena.com/view.php?id=4cb7c54b5ec13
Pudge1 (no mh) : http://replay.garena.com/view.php?id=4ca310f8340da
Pudge2 (no mh) : http://replay.garena.com/view.php?id=4cc422441a5c1

The distrubution of skill points in dota or commonly called “skilling”, “skillset” , “skillbuild” are one of the most stable things in experienced players because once they have played a considerable amount of games the skill point distribution becomes solid and hardly up to be changed.

Let’s compare our three pudges :

The pudge with maphack skilled the three first point as follows : 1) rot 2) hook 3) hook
whereas the other two pudges (pudge1 and pudge2) skilled them like this : 1) rot 2) hook 3) rot
unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) Pudge0.thunBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) Pudge1.thunBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) Pudge2.th

There’s also another pattern which was broken by the person who pretended to incriminate Godmaker of maphack. This one is about items.

The three pudges made these items : arcane boots , vanguard and hood of defiance , but one of these pudges get them in a different order –guess who- . They all made arcane boots as the first item, nonetheless pudge1 and pudge2 started to build hood of defiance since the earliest stages of the game and made vanguard in the last instance whereas pudge0 (with maphack) made it in the second place leaving hood of defiance to the last.

(Although interesting, this evidence is weaker than the skillset one because a player might judge what item has to be done depending always on the circumstances of the game, but that’s regarding to pro skilled players and noone of the different users we are dealing with here are of such level of skill so it’s of quite relevance)

There is also a huge difference in the gamestyle, someone may say it’s due to maphack, but just watch those three replays and you will see how one pudge’s game performance is so different from the other two.


I strongly believe Godmaker got his nickname spoofed and hereby I’m to unban him (when servers are fine again of course ^_^)
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptySun Oct 31, 2010 12:28 pm

thanks for showing the truth its what i've been saying before.
alot of things were so clear that game was so obvious to fool down some players.
same host did report 2 mh posts in his game ( i and the other player ) and that was his first time to post in garena were showing 100000% that they r using MH like they are proud of it.
hope also you can take an action on that host. because hosts can see whose players are spoofing nicknames in their game once they join their host.

once i saw jordanian host i told cous44 that wasn't me at all..am in dubai and its impossible for me to play a jordanian host ( as everyone knows or ppl who know about it that in dubai they r using a different internet cable thru the indian and gulf sea and in jordan they r using the internet cable thru the mediterranean sea ) it gives me 3-4 seconds delay to join a jordanian host and 350+ ping so to play with PUDGE who needs excelent ping that was so clear....

anyway thank you odakar and i appreciate your hard work to show the truth.

thanks again
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptySun Oct 31, 2010 2:07 pm

well, we cannot really take action against this host as we cannot against other hosts. I am sorry for you, after all 0doaker's reasoning seems to be very good. I also appreciate that.

For hosts who do not check for namespoofers: I used to ask them before game started or I host myself. You can never be sure though. And we cannot force them to check, therefor we cannot punish them for not doing it. As in this case: If this kind of shit happens again and the same host is involved, we will see. We take care of namespoofers and hosts who support them as good as we can, but sadly there isn't much we can do. We can just keep our eyes open.

Good luck to you and I hope you will never be "under attack" again!
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PostSubject: Re: unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922)   unBan GodMaker maphack (2747922) EmptySun Oct 31, 2010 3:35 pm

hope so ... since forever i didn't leave a single game or someone reported me for leaving. that was the first time someone report me and accusing me for using a mh. and sadly cous44 went so far happy to reply with ( you made my day ) to ban me..as per cous44 him self reported me before but he mixed between me and someone else who has almost similer nickname.
so i hope so also admins can be responsbile and not taking it personal..if i and cous44 had some argues before it doesn't mean he can ban me immediatly just if someone report me..and i've tryed my best to explain and explain but only odakar took the responsible to invest his time to find out the truth and i highly appreciate that.

anyway close the topic and thanks for you all for understanding.

enrique the host him self post another report for someone else accusing him also for using a mh..and magicly it was same game which they accused me of.

https://edhlr.canadaboard.net/hlr-abuser-requests-f5/ban-roger_hunk-maphack-t9064.htm

check it out.

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