ban e|Mazing-_^ 17418734 namespoofer

EU.GaSeR wrote:

So, can you explain why there are no messages about mouz.Yuna- joining jambonator's game in game chat? Was that a bug too, or you still insist the scroll was not on top?

As I already said :

I joined his game.
After this I recognized the bug and I told Yuna (Anni; I know her from Real life) about it and we just started laughing. She did not believe me first then she joined the game, too and she started laughing again. She said : "What a funny glitch is that ? ;D" (Page 2)

sacuTEkaram wrote:

I can't believe you banned this guy, just think about it, why would he spoof the name of his buddy he's playing with?

That's it ..

fenix136 wrote:

@ e|mazing-_^ as i clarified a couple of things about host bots there is only 1 thing u can do. since you say that mouz.yuna is a real mate of yours just upload a couple of replays here so we can see you playing with him/her in 1 game and we can than look at the "glitch" that jambonator might have used a host bot to host the game (though i don`t think so)

without any further comment i believe u`ll all will restrain from idiotic non-sense comments.

untill such replays are provided u`r staying banned as a spoofer and no checking will be done against jambonator.


@ET-- there are other ways to detect MH players in a game not only clicking on the hero in fog.



@ all the rest : have a lovely day

I will upload some replays later (:
I'm at a friend at the moment and we're going to the Ice-skating hall later

even with replays I do not see much hope... there were too many irregularities in your stories I guess... we can discuss what we think happened, but in any case those are just speculations. as a matter of fact, what stay in the end is that you didnt tell the truth. not in general. that added to the fact that the whole matter is based on host bots, smth we generally forbid (not without reason, as we see here), makes your position very weak. sorry to tell you, anyway we will see how admins decide. upload the replays and maybe that changes smth.

I hope you understand my point, this is not for punishing you. you alrdy ARE punished. it is about why we should NOT punish you. and you reasons are just... suboptimal..



good luck

naZI stop spam on every ban / unban request >_>

ET-- wrote:

cous44 wrote:

Took you 3 years to say that ET.

wp.

no it didnt take me 3 years to realiseit. i just became a better player and realised that hlrs are just like the other 38745734563745734 rooms in garena with a slight difference which is retarded rules. i mean COME ON you cant get someone banned for maphack unless they fogclick someone ? thats so damn retarded

Playing on argh or rgc pubs doesn´t mean you re suddendly good even though I know you are fine. The thing is, we are trying our best to improve hlr. Your arguments are not helping, especially when you played here for quiete a long time, and the only thing you ve been doing lately is criticizing. If you have some ideas that might improve the current hlr system, you obviously know we will pay attention to them, as long as it is written in pm or somewehere where it fits better, than an unban request.
About your maphack argument, "if" only you knew...

We could continue this conversation in pm, it goes a bit offtopic, and Im that close to break that shitty spanish keyboard, I can t write anymore!

cous i think you should know that my account "ET" is used for pub games im currently a member of team FM if you've been following the scene on gosugamers you would know that im saying i became a "better" player because of the fact that my team and i have been able to beat teams like NE/Vanity/Sturtle (and thats only in official matches w/o mentioning all the scrims)
anyway back to the topic yes i have been playing in hlrs for quite a while but the combination of all these new shitty players and xp hackers + these insanley long bans makes me lose my nerves. for me banning periods should vary according to the person's history (if its a leaving issue) also punishing flamers should be more severe. I can keep on listing forever but if you guys really want to improve the room you should make some kind of conference on irc perhaps also start thinking of making a rather closed community that has no tolerance to leavers and flamers not moderating "another garena room" if you wanna talk about it contact me on mirc
on Quakenet #FM.dota

cheers

e|Mazing-_^ wrote:

EU.GaSeR wrote:

So, can you explain why there are no messages about mouz.Yuna- joining jambonator's game in game chat? Was that a bug too, or you still insist the scroll was not on top?

As I already said :

I joined his game.

What i ask is, Why there are no messages

"e|Mazing-_^ has joined your game"
"e|Mazing-_^: e|Mazing-_^ has joined your game! Ping:|"
"e|Mazing-_^ has left your game"

vs


On my post at page 2 i made it totally clear that host didnt skip those lines. Unless the screenshot is photoshopeed, there are NO messages about you joining. Why?

I dont contact young people via irc, i dont wanna go to jail.

Yours, sincerly.

omfg the whole dota scene uses mirc i dont use it for anything else LOL

Yep, IRC is old, way older than your defense of the ancients, I used to run it, 8 or 10 years ago or something. We just don´t need it at all, its no bigdeal, there is plenty of other ways to have a group conversation, irc is fine, lets say we got used to something else .

Let this unban request having an end or something, I don´t like when we are posting useless comments on soñthing that a guy actually BUILT for another purpose.

jambonator wrote:

she saw the bug? only host can see it. Stop lie.

That is not true, all players see two same names in HB..Bye

you guys should know something that sometimes "certain" players see the host's name as the "bot's name" not all the players but sometimes even just one of the players sees it different

Eunique wrote:

even with replays I do not see much hope... there were too many irregularities in your stories I guess... we can discuss what we think happened, but in any case those are just speculations. as a matter of fact, what stay in the end is that you didnt tell the truth. not in general. that added to the fact that the whole matter is based on host bots, smth we generally forbid (not without reason, as we see here), makes your position very weak. sorry to tell you, anyway we will see how admins decide. upload the replays and maybe that changes smth.

I hope you understand my point, this is not for punishing you. you alrdy ARE punished. it is about why we should NOT punish you. and you reasons are just... suboptimal..



good luck

Here is one from our Clan-War (:
http://replay.garena.com/view.php?id=4cee90ed5da0a

Be sure we are not going anywhere unless you try to explain the issue I am asking for third time already

EU.GaSeR wrote:

So, can you explain why there are no messages about mouz.Yuna- joining jambonator's game in game chat? Was that a bug too, or you still insist the scroll was not on top?

I used the wrong words.
I can't explain why there is no message of me joining the game;That's why I'm confused and that's why I'm telling you it has to be a bug.
We were in skype & I joined his game and had this bug.
She didn't believe me and joined the game,too.
It's not on the top that she joined the game; ofc ; it's under the screen which is shown.

wiRus91 wrote:

jambonator wrote:

she saw the bug? only host can see it. Stop lie.

That is not true, all players see two same names in HB..Bye

Just for answer this:

So, e|Mazing-_^ joined my game, i saw spoof, so i kicked him. as you can see on the ss. And his mate wasnt here (as Gaser said).


So, if your mate saw you, you supposed to have rejoin the game my game? but you didnt. (cause i banned you).
So how can your mate saw the bug?

Need an explication.

jambonator wrote:

wiRus91 wrote:

jambonator wrote:

she saw the bug? only host can see it. Stop lie.

That is not true, all players see two same names in HB..Bye

Just for answer this:

So, e|Mazing-_^ joined my game, i saw spoof, so i kicked him. as you can see on the ss. And his mate wasnt here (as Gaser said).


So, if your mate saw you, you supposed to have rejoin the game my game? but you didnt. (cause i banned you).
So how can your mate saw the bug?

Need an explication.

I joined your game again.
Proof me, that I did not join again !
You just show the top of the screen.
Show me the rest of the progress.

Kind regards

blacksoda has joined your game.
"I dont wanna play more"

/FF MENTAL NO RE
I´m sorry, totally off topic, but it made me laugh =D

cous44 wrote:

blacksoda has joined your game.
"I dont wanna play more"

/FF MENTAL NO RE
I´m sorry, totally off topic, but it made me laugh =D

cous.
I rejoined his game. His "Friend" or whatever he is, wasn't is the game anymore, that's true.
But he was about to play & watch it a bit more.
You can see on the ss that it was not the end of the progress!

e|Mazing-_^ wrote:

jambonator wrote:

wiRus91 wrote:

jambonator wrote:

she saw the bug? only host can see it. Stop lie.

That is not true, all players see two same names in HB..Bye

Just for answer this:

So, e|Mazing-_^ joined my game, i saw spoof, so i kicked him. as you can see on the ss. And his mate wasnt here (as Gaser said).


So, if your mate saw you, you supposed to have rejoin the game my game? but you didnt. (cause i banned you).
So how can your mate saw the bug?

Need an explication.

I joined your game again.
Proof me, that I did not join again !
You just show the top of the screen.
Show me the rest of the progress.

Kind regards

Btw tell me, where is the entry of ShakaDeLavierge ?
under the ss you sent right?

Hu? What the? I´m not talking about this. Was more like pointing the addiction, his brain didn t want to play anymore, but his hands did.

About your case, because after all, I´m the one who took the decision, it is crystal clear. But since, I don´t want to be of any influence, and plus, it´s pain in the ass to use that sempron pc where I am, I don`t want to interfeer.

cous44 wrote:

Hu? What the? I´m not talking about this. Was more like pointing the addiction, his brain didn t want to play anymore, but his hands did.

About your case, because after all, I´m the one who took the decision, it is crystal clear. But since, I don´t want to be of any influence, and plus, it´s pain in the ass to use that sempron pc where I am, I don`t want to interfeer.

So how we go on?
I don't wanna be banned for one year with the fakt that I did nothing wrong.
That's unfair dude..

Here comes the lie summary.

1. "As you can see in the screenshot, I was in the game too and I can affirm that it was a hostbot." -Yuna
Total lie, there are no messages about host bot on top of the chat, so, they (especially yuna) could never know if that was a host bot,
plus, jambo never used one (noone ever saw that, and he is a known host), plus, he knew that is bannable.
2. "Well. The bug appears to anyone in a game of a hostbot it usually copies the name of the host but sometimes it can happen, that a random name of a player in the game gets copied and it will be shown as in the picture of jambo." - eMazing
Lie, he was FIRST to join the game, thanks to screenshot we have, so only two players were there at that time: Jambo and eMazing, so, even if that bug would occure, there was only one name to be given: Jambo. But it wasnt.
Yuna's name coudlnt pop up out of nowhere.
3. "(as you can see in the screenshot it's not taken at the beginning of the creator and thats also the point which shows that he wants to hide the Hostbot. But nevermind)" - eMazing
The screenshot is clearly taken on top of chat and no messages were skipped. He just told lies to mislead us, and failed, since i checked that on page 2.


Now, to the point.

a. Jambo hosted a game
b. eMazing joins it and his nickname appears as Mouz Yuna.

after that, he wants us to believe that if i host a game, the first guy to join my host can have an another random nickname of a player that have been playing with me some time ago,
but that surely is not the name spoofer? Is there anyone, who will believe it? Doubt it.

What we see now: you used that hack for some reason, most likely, not a bad one, like, spoiling/banning an enemy or something like that, but, just to have fun or something. The only thing we can't deny is that you used the hack.

EU.GaSeR wrote:

Here comes the lie summary.

1. "As you can see in the screenshot, I was in the game too and I can affirm that it was a hostbot." -Yuna
Total lie, there are no messages about host bot on top of the chat, so, they could never know if that was a host bot,
plus, jambo never used one (noone ever saw that, and he is a known host), plus, he knew that is bannable.
2. "Well. The bug appears to anyone in a game of a hostbot it usually copies the name of the host but sometimes it can happen, that a random name of a player in the game gets copied and it will be shown as in the picture of jambo." - eMazing
Lie, he was FIRST to join the game, thanks to screenshot we have, so only two players were there at that time: Jambo and eMazing, so, even if that bug would occure, there was only one name to be given: Jambo. But it wasnt.
Yuna's name coudlnt pop up out of nowhere.
3. "(as you can see in the screenshot it's not taken at the beginning of the creator and thats also the point which shows that he wants to hide the Hostbot. But nevermind)" - eMazing
The screenshot is clearly taken on top of chat and no messages were skipped. He just told lies to mislead us, and failed, since i checked that on page 2.


Now, to the point.

a. Jambo hosted a game
b. eMazing joins it and his nickname appears as Mouz Yuna.

after that, he wants us to believe that if i host a game, the first guy to join my host can have an another random nickname of a player that have been playing with me some time ago,
but that surely is not the name spoofer? Is there anyone, who will believe it? Doubt it.

What we see now: you used that hack for some reason, most likely, not a bad one, like, spoiling/banning an enemy or something like that, but, just to have fun or something. The only thing we can't deny is that you used the hack.

It's okay. I will call Juba later and talk to him, how we will go on.