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PostSubject: Ban monSt4r * Map Hack *   Ban monSt4r     * Map Hack * EmptySun Dec 05, 2010 1:34 pm

Name : monSt4r

UID : 2050142

Reason : Map Hack

Replay : http://replay.garena.com/view.php?id=4cfbf60526160

Proofs :

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PostSubject: Re: Ban monSt4r * Map Hack *   Ban monSt4r     * Map Hack * EmptyTue Dec 07, 2010 9:25 am

I had to register to comment on this cause someone said I'm going to get banned, so here we go...
First things first I never had MH on my computer.
Second-I get reported by a guy that has 0-100 score that game.
Third-I'm looking at these pictures and I start wondering, wtf, do I have a maphack ? But I don't...and I'm too lazy to check the replay for those pictures cause I know this is stupid. Plus if someone goes to check the replay, please ban the noob that did this report, cause he is "pro" with photoshop or just took pictures out of context...

Thanks, bye Razz

p.s. oh yes, I'll take this as a compliment of me owning you so hard that you convince yourself I have maphack. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Ban monSt4r * Map Hack *   Ban monSt4r     * Map Hack * EmptyTue Dec 07, 2010 9:50 am

king-_-dota

you have seen how maphack is detected, but you didnt understand it at all. Sad to see people failing like that.


Wasted 5 mins of ma life on nothing, just to see there is no MH Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Ban monSt4r * Map Hack *   Ban monSt4r     * Map Hack * EmptyTue Dec 07, 2010 10:09 am

Ban the sucker for at least 10 days for having me log in...small compensation and personal satisfaction, thanks Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Ban monSt4r * Map Hack *   Ban monSt4r     * Map Hack * EmptyThu Dec 09, 2010 5:19 am

monSt4r wrote:

First things first I never had MH on my computer.
Second-I get reported by a guy that has 0-100 score that game.
Third-I'm looking at these pictures and I start wondering, wtf, do I have a maphack ? But I don't...and I'm too lazy to check the replay for those pictures cause I know this is stupid. Plus if someone goes to check the replay, please ban the noob that did this report, cause he is "pro" with photoshop or just took pictures out of context...

First you lie.
Score of the player who report you in not your business
Third these pictures are enough to ban you and only a blind cannot see that you don't use maphack. The red circle around the heroes in every picture means that you click them! And that is visible on replay only.

If you don't use maphack, how you can click them when they were on fog? Even you click accidentally in fog without maphack you cannot mark the hero. But you mark it... How??
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PostSubject: Re: Ban monSt4r * Map Hack *   Ban monSt4r     * Map Hack * EmptyThu Dec 09, 2010 6:26 am

Here we go again.

Moustakalis
you have seen how maphack is detected, but you didnt understand it at all. Sad to see people failing like that.

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PostSubject: Re: Ban monSt4r * Map Hack *   Ban monSt4r     * Map Hack * EmptyThu Dec 09, 2010 8:55 am

then tell us Gaser, im confused u treat these pictures like they are nothing, in light us and tell us what the **** is that pictures problem?
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PostSubject: Re: Ban monSt4r * Map Hack *   Ban monSt4r     * Map Hack * EmptyThu Dec 09, 2010 10:08 am

Well, i dont think I will reveal any secret info, because everyone knows clicking in fog is simple way to detect mh, but, if screenshot with targeted hero would itself be enough proof, we could ban any user just having one replay of his game to take screenshot.

For example, when you target a hero, and he runs to fog, WC3 drops your current target in game, but, on replay it looks like if you are still targeting that enemy hero. I had to check all those 5 screenshots to make sure heroes were targeted while being visible, and that circle mark just stood there while hero moved from visible part of map to fog part.

If you wanna know how we check it, it is simple. Thats what I did to make sure he had mh (Yes, i checked to make sure he has MH, because screenshots looked valid, but i was mistaken) :

When you see a hero targeting enemy in fog:
1. Pause
2. Click on "fog of war" to make that area be invisible (covered with fog)
3. Click "fog of war" again, the red circle should still be there.

Whenever you Ctrl+C after turning fog on and off, it should show that enemy hero as a target, because player is targeting it. But, if you just watch replay with no fog, target will still be there, that is what we see on screenshots.

That fog on -> off -> on is one of ways we use to actually check MHers. The good catch, also, is when player targets a hero in fog, not followes him to fog.

Try it yourself.



P.S. That was kinda childish from me to act that "smart" pointing on something I know and other people, who dont work with that, just cant know, but i was annoyed with them, acting like if they know everything. My apologize.
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PostSubject: Re: Ban monSt4r * Map Hack *   Ban monSt4r     * Map Hack * EmptyThu Dec 09, 2010 10:36 am

Nice explanation i learned something thank.
Dont excuse yourself because of your human reaction.People who are agressive because they think they know everything dont deserve more explanation than that.
And your job here is to take the good decision not to teach people how recognize a mher

Best regards
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PostSubject: Re: Ban monSt4r * Map Hack *   Ban monSt4r     * Map Hack * EmptyFri Dec 10, 2010 1:27 am

thx for your explanation, however i have a replay which shows luna in sentinel team targeting bloodseeker while both aren't the host or anything else, and that happens after 1:45min after game start (before creeps first spawn) and when i try the fog off>on>off thing the red circle is gone while there is no way any of sentinel saw any of scourge.
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PostSubject: Re: Ban monSt4r * Map Hack *   Ban monSt4r     * Map Hack * EmptyFri Dec 10, 2010 1:58 am

black_a85
I just said that screenshots are not valid proof, because, if we take them as proof, any user can be banned for MH. Then i explained that sticky target circle bug. If you want other replays to be explained, report people who you do think are MHers and add comment about episode to watch, to get an answer.

Those guys, mods of abuse section, have so much work to do, that they shouldnt waste more time explaining all of that, but if you enter this request with 5 screenshots from reporter and see "Denied" answer, you might think bad of us Smile So, I wanted to make it clear for everyone.

And, btw, there is still a chance one of them will prove that he has mh, because they already should have more experience, so i would listen to them and learn more. But, i guess, that chance is rly low.
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PostSubject: Re: Ban monSt4r * Map Hack *   Ban monSt4r     * Map Hack * EmptyFri Dec 10, 2010 4:38 am

I haven't found no evidence of maphack.

All those screenshots are, as cous likes calling them, 'hold clicks' . Gaser has given the explanation but with one little mistake :

3. Click "fog of war" again, the red circle should still be there
It does not.


Denied.
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