unban mxj_001 street_dog comes

Posts : 9 Join date : 2010-10-16 Location : UK

https://edhlr.canadaboard.net/hlr4-ban-requests-f7/ban-mxj_001-t17336.htm

It is getting annoying! I know admins have many posts to deal with, however, how could u ban me without watching replay? I dont understand why some requests for known ppl need replays, but unknown ppl got ban so easy.

Back to my case, as u see on SS, 3 sides down, almost ppl didn't want to prolong the game, even brown(naix) though it was senseless to def. Almost ppl asked rmk. How could bhswat request me for a game end of 10 sec? He is just silly.

Replay is uploaded. Street_dog pls watch it be4 making a judgment. Thx!

http://replay.garena.com/view.php?id=4cf952621aa46

Subject: Re: unban mxj_001 street_dog comes Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:49 pm

I think that the rules are quite clear about remaking

Quote :: You are not allowed to forfeit.

Quote :: At any time during a game you can vote to remake/cancel a game. In order to remake/leave the game, the majority of all players must agree, including those in the opposite team.

I don't see enough votes which support your theory. As a matter of fact only one player of team 2 said "yes" to your remake proposal.

So why you should get unbanned?

Posts : 9 Join date : 2010-10-16 Location : UK

others 4 of players in senti afked, 2 of scourge said it was no sense to def. is it clearly enough? How could u take the worst player (invoker)'s point into account? He is just no brain. btw 3 of my teamm8s were in skpye with me. They could proof -vote ff.

Subject: Re: unban mxj_001 street_dog comes Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:11 pm

What I tried to explain is that ff in europe high level rooms doesn't exist. You should defend until the throne/tree is down.
But assuming that your other 3 friends voted rmk that would not be enough to rmk - you need the majority which is 6 players in this case.
I can clearly see that the game is lost but this is not the point. The point is that you, as host, refused to stay 1 min more to finish the game and decided to remake on your own.
If you can ask your skype friends to support your theory. If what you say is true you ban duration might be lowered to few days due to the circumstances. However I don't think you should be unbanned. Because you clearly violated a rule, even two with this ff, and that is something untollerable.

Posts : 9 Join date : 2010-10-16 Location : UK

m8 u misunderstood here. Firstly, as i said above, teamm8z all afked excluded me. I was the only one trying to sort the game out in positive way instead of afked. Secondly, I was the best stats in my team, (12-3) I guess team8s had more hard time than me. Why couldnt I stay that 10 more secs?
Hlr rules r punishing ppl ruin game. I dont think the leaving ruined game.
If my request just makes ban duration lower, I wont bother my m8s proof here. Anyway it is silly and senseless from beginning.

Posts : 146 Join date : 2010-08-18 Location : Jordan

Support unban,,,Game is over...i know in all hlr if 2 sides mega ban = 3 days
in this case 3 sides mega & 0 towers .. & he got the best score in the game..actually he is good player,,,he didnt ruin the game at all...plz modelators dont ban for this reasons...u can see he is good player & all scourage team not pushing they r farming & they make silly comments " can u defend now? " ... Support unban Smile

thnx mod

Posts : 107 Join date : 2010-10-20 Location : Mk

suport unban ... ofc ... this is silly ban

Posts : 260 Join date : 2010-08-25 Location : Serbia

Well rules are retarded in cases like this but you can't just ignore them, rules are rules. Although I gotta say 7 days is a rather rough ban for leaving when 3 lanes and the 2 throne towers are down.

Posts : 9 Join date : 2010-10-16 Location : UK

Well, thx for supporting guys. I just dont get why shall I get reporting by a silly kid?

street_dog wrote:: What I tried to explain is that ff in europe high level rooms doesn't exist. You should defend until the throne/tree is down.
But assuming that your other 3 friends voted rmk that would not be enough to rmk - you need the majority which is 6 players in this case.
.

Hlr could vote rmk, right? 2 from scourge + 3 of my team and me =6. I wont post and bother others anymore, I hope admins make ur own decision. Dont reject a good player playing in Hlr4
Very Happy

Subject: Re: unban mxj_001 street_dog comes Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:09 am

Code:: 00:02 [Allies] mxj_001: -apso
00:15 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: -random
00:49 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: share please ?
01:11 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: thank you
01:15 [Allies] mxj_001: np
01:20 [Allies] hotluna: 4 meele =.=
02:03 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: -weather moonlight
02:05 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: -ii
02:08 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: -don
02:12 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: -hhn
02:14 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: -clear
03:47 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: ss
05:17 [Allies] mxj_001: ss
06:25 [Allies] mxj_001: ss
07:46 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: care ss mid
07:53 [Allies] mxj_001: bottm
08:07 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: ss
08:13 [Allies] hotluna: =.=
08:36 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: re
08:47 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: ty
09:26 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: kil rasta on lvl 6 ?
09:45 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: luci ?
09:51 [Allies] hotluna: sure
10:16 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: one was urs ?
10:19 [Allies] rx8_tt: y
10:21 [Allies] rx8_tt: wtf
10:22 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: ss
10:34 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: ill give u
10:36 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: sry
10:41 [Allies] rx8_tt: keep it np
10:45 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: ss mid
10:46 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: caere
10:47 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: thetre
11:57 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: shajre p[lz
12:03 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: b
12:04 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: b
12:32 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: ty
12:49 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: 3
12:49 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: 3
13:07 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: cent u deny
13:09 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: im low
13:38 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: im b
14:53 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: care
14:56 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: omw
15:04 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: gj
15:11 [Allies] mxj_001: care
15:14 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: k
15:29 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: 3
15:31 [Allies] hotluna: rasta
15:38 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: k
15:59 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: ummmmmm
16:10 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: care top
16:20 [Allies] hotluna: b
16:24 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: kk
16:28 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: b
16:28 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: wtf
16:28 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: b
16:29 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: ffs
16:38 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: what's wrong with me !!!!
16:48 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: tower
17:41 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: care
17:45 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: omw
17:52 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: care
17:56 [Allies] rx8_tt: k
18:37 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: omw
21:12 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: coming
21:36 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: come on
21:41 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: go
22:18 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: omg
22:22 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: omw*
23:12 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: basher ?
23:21 [Allies] hotluna: dont focus on their tank
24:06 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: panada
24:19 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: gj
24:31 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: heal ?
24:37 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: ty
25:45 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: omw
25:54 [Allies] mxj_001: oom
25:57 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: k
26:14 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: b
26:38 [Allies] mxj_001: ...........
26:45 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: fuck it
27:10 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: lol
27:11 [All] I.N.VOK.E.R: just nice
27:13 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: pudge come on
27:13 [Allies] mxj_001: pudge
27:14 [Allies] mxj_001: ffs
27:16 [All] I.N.VOK.E.R: auto dagger
27:20 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: 0/7
27:23 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: really sry
27:29 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: i really in a sleep mode
28:14 [Allies] rx8_tt: ty
28:16 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: np
28:39 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: go
28:47 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: omg
28:53 [All] zulufi: so close :d
29:30 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: care all
29:54 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: -ha
30:50 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: cant believe were losing to invoker that knows only for meteor and sunstrike and abadon that took frostmourne before death coil
30:58 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: death coild*
32:41 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: :/
33:59 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: ty
34:10 [Allies] mxj_001: def
34:12 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: coming
34:15 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: -m
34:16 [Allies] mxj_001: kill rahs
34:17 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: -ms
34:21 [Allies] mxj_001: before he use ulti
35:28 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: ty
36:09 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: take a look @ invoker :D
37:00 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: good job mate
37:23 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: omw
37:32 [Allies] mxj_001: base
37:33 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: seac
38:09 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: ?
38:12 [Allies] mxj_001: ye
38:41 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: lol
38:48 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: invoker ftw
39:04 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: b
39:04 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: b
39:10 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: all def
39:52 [Allies] mxj_001: pudge ffs
39:56 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: really sry
39:57 [Allies] mxj_001: who did u eat?
39:59 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: kinda uslesse :/
40:05 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: storm
40:11 [Allies] mxj_001: he was doomed
40:16 [Allies] mxj_001: !
40:39 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: lol
40:51 [All] mxj_001: rmk?
40:55 [All] abidos: yes
40:59 [All] I.N.VOK.E.R: better with cop of coffe
41:02 [All] mxj_001: pw ppl
41:04 [All] mxj_001: )
41:08 [All] mxj_001: ye u need coffe
41:13 [All] mxj_001: stop feeding..
42:16 [Allies] mxj_001: eat aba or naxi next time
42:34 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: lol dom
42:38 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: doom*
42:46 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: y
43:30 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: ..
43:30 [All] I.N.VOK.E.R: Wezzzzzzzzzzz
43:50 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: haha
43:55 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: nice ult :D
44:14 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: gg guys
44:23 [Allies] I.N.VOK.E.R: really sry for this game
44:26 [All] I.N.VOK.E.R: gg all
44:27 [Allies] IsMeAnRetard: np
45:09 [All] mxj_001: can we ff?
45:37 [All] Panteleimon: u don't want it as we can see
46:03 [All] mxj_001: caz u dont say so
46:12 [All] zulufi: can you defend ?

Ok, this is the chat history.
Where exatcly 6 ppl state that they agree to remake?
I asked you to bring your skype mates here so they could confirm that they agreed to remake.
And from scourge who agreed to remake except abidos?

Posts : 9 Join date : 2010-10-16 Location : UK

ok, Panteleimon said 'u dont want it as we can see' and zulufi said "can you defend'. What do u think about they said?

This wasnt a formal game. Shall I request players type -ff, -rmk and -vote ?

It is rly needed to be end now. Street_dog u spent few time to judge the report without replay, now u even spend more time in here.

Subject: Re: unban mxj_001 street_dog comes Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:08 pm

I have to support mxj_001.
I am playing with him for years and he NEVER left a game, even if we got pawned.
This seems like a big remake misunderstanding and I am sure, since he is aware about the rules now, that this wont happen again.
good luck mao!

Subject: Re: unban mxj_001 street_dog comes Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:35 am

7 days might seem harsh and they are. because we are taking in consideration if someone just leaves for himself or if THE HOST leaves. that is the point. all the "he is good player" stuff is totally of NO INTEREST, even if his score was 25-0-30, it would not matter.

for the rmk: you complain about street dog's decision but YET you havent prooved anything. maybe you are right and it was some misunderstanding, do you really want us mods to check EVERY damn replay before we ban? because it might be rmk vote?

I am sure you see that we have to make decisions easyly. that is why you can go here and make an unban request. when you vote for rmk on skype, THEN TELL ALL PLAYERS, because obviously in this game at least one player was offended. is this so hard to see? you got banned because you as host left a game without explaining it.

as you made a mistake, I think you should be able to suffer the consequences. next time tell ALL players what is going on and what you and your friends decide. that is why voting is in ALL CHAT, so all can see what is going on. game might be at an end, but what is the problem in waiting 10 more seconds then. you know about the rules, so....

let's see how this turns out,
good luck any way,
greetz,
pr0doaker

Posts : 9 Join date : 2010-10-16 Location : UK

Whatever good player or no. The stats i brought in shows I wasnt the hardest player staying in game. Do u get my point? and I wasnt the one hurry to end that game be4 10 secs. I just thought about all of our players' own good.

And there r many cases r denied caz of no replays link. Dont I need to mention that?

Posts : 9 Join date : 2010-10-16 Location : UK

I think 7 days is not rly a big deal, and now it is not too long. Do my friends have to register accounts for supporting me?

I just want to say I didnt make a wrong decision for rmking. I didnt have a crash game, and I didnt leave on my own benefit. Even disc ppl couldnt be unban. Why I shouldnt?

Subject: Re: unban mxj_001 street_dog comes Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:04 am

It is a matter of principles. You, especially as a host, should not take decisions by yourself whether remake or not. To do so you need support of the majority of the players in the game. You claim that your friends agreed to remake - ok, but I don't see it in the chat. That's why I want them to confirm your theory. The other two of scourge with many approximation can be consideren as "yes", but let's don't become so petty.
I am glad you are supported by some ppl here, including other moderator, but this is not going to change much. "Known", "pro" etc or not - everybody is supposed to follow the same rules. And in that case unless you proof the opposite, you violated them.

And BTW - of course you should ask in the main chat for remake and 6 players must show their consent. How do you immagine other voting system?

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